1974 IMO Problems/Problem 6
Problem
Let
be a non-constant polynomial with integer coefficients. If
is the number of distinct integers
such that
prove that
where
denotes the degree of the polynomial
Solution
Lemma: Let
be a polynomial with integer coefficients which is not constant. Then if
obtains
(or
) as its values for at least four times then
( or
) for all
.
Proof. Assume that
for
distince. Then if there's
which
then
so
where
is a polynomial with the integer coefficients! So
which is impossible cause
can not presents as product of more than three distince numbers! This proved the lemma!
Back to our problem: For convinet put
and
. Firstly if
then
. Assume
. If equation
with more than three integer points (ie.. at least
) then equation
implies
so
, ie...
. The same case for equation
. So
. If
then
. Now assume that
. In this case if
then
.
So let us show that
. In fact if
then
has three integers distince roots, and the same for
. So
and
where
distince and
distince and all with
are integers! Then
for all
. So
.
Finally, we have
for
and because that
can not presents as products of three distince numbers so
, we may assume
. Because
so
This means
. So we must have
which follows
, which contracts!. So
and we're done.
The above solution was posted and copyrighted by pluricomplex.
Remarks (added by pf02, October 2025)
The solution above is written very sloppily and
badly, it could use substantial editing. However, the proof is
understandable and correct, and I will refrain from rewriting it.
It is interesting to note that it actually proves substantially more than the problem asked. It proves the following two statements:
If one of the equations
and
has
integer, distinct solutions, then
the other has no integer solutions.
If both equations
and
have integer solutions then
.
The statement of the original problem is a trivial consequence of these statements (as I will show later).
This problem is in fact very easy. It is made
difficult artificially, by hiding the essence of the description
of the distinct, integer solutions of
and
. The essence is hidden behind a more general
sounding (in some sense artificial) statement. Had it been
formulated to express the essence of the description of the
distinct, integer roots of
and
,
the problem would have been much less intimidating, and much
easier, because the facts would have pointed towards a solution.
Here is a reformulation the problem:
Let
be a polynomial with integer
coefficients of degree
. Let
the number of
distinct integer roots of
, and
the number
of distinct integer roots of
. If both
then
.
With the notation of Problem 2, assume we have a
non-constant polynomial
with constant coefficients, and
assume
. Prove the stronger bound
.
If
, give an example of
for which there
are
distinct integer roots of
and
.
If
, give an example of
for which there
are
distinct integer roots of
and one root of
.
If
show that it is impossible to have
and
.
Below I will prove Problem 2 (from which the.statement
of the original problem follows trivially), as well as the additional
challenges.
There will be some overlap of ideas with the first solution, but for the sake of making the solution self contained, I will fill in all the details.
Solution 2
Let
be the integer, distinct solutions
of
, and let
be the
integer, distinct solutions of
. Denote
the union
arranged in
increasing order. Thus each
could be an element
or an element
. We will just look at the sequence
as a sequence of
's and
's.
Let
satisfy
and
satisfy
. Then
, in other words
or
.
Indeed,
for some integer
. From
it follows
, so
must be a divisor
of
. We paraphrase this by saying that a solution of
and a solution of
are at distance at most
.
In terms of looking at
as a sequence of
's and
's, given that
all the
's are distinct, this tells us that the distance in the
counting (or indexing) in the sequence, any
is at most two away from
any
. In other words, if we have an
, then at most two entries to
the right and two entries to the left are
's, and similarly, if we
have a
, then at most two entries to the right and two entries to the
left are
's.
It follows that
can not have
(or more) elements.
Indeed,
has
elements and assume
is an
. Then
must be
's. Since
is an
,
must be
's. It follows that all
's are
's, which is a
contradiction since we assumed we have at least one
.
This argument does not exclude
. For example,
we could have a sequence
.
This finishes the proof of problem 2.
The statement of the original problem follows trivially
from Problem 2. Indeed, if only one of
and
has integer roots, then
. If the degree
of
is
or
, then
respectively, which is less than
.
If the degree
then
.
Let us prove the stronger bound
.
Assume that
. Then we have that
are
and
(in some order), or
are
and
(in some order).
Assume
. This is impossible because of the argument
from the first solution. (Repeat the argument
for the sake of completeness: Assume
and
.
Then
with
having integer coefficients. Substituting
we have
.
It follows that the values of the four factors
must
be in
. Since they are distinct, they must be
exactly these four values. Then
will be
a multiple of 4, and it can not equal
.)
Now assume
. Then
and
for some
(all distinct), and
some polynomials with integer
coefficients. Then
.
Substituting
we have
Then each
must equal one of
.
We now need to make a very careful analysis of all the cases
when
take all the possible values. Approached
with brute force, there would be
cases, but we
can reduce this enormously.
Think of listing the
entries, in two groups of
The values of the entries in the first group of
have to be
distinct, and the values of the entries in the second group of
have to be distinct.
The first entries in the two groups have to be distinct, and the same goes for the second and third entries.
We must not have a
and
within the same group of
entries.
Two triplets of values in a group which differ by a sign are
equivalent (e.g.
and
).
The idea of the proof is to list all the relevant choices for
, and see that the choice of values leads to a
contradiction. The final check will be to verify whether
and
.
It will turn out that it is impossible to choose values for the
two groups of
entries so that all the constraints and the
two equalities above are satisfied.
I will not show here all the cases; instead, I will show some very typical examples. It is not difficult for the reader to verify all the cases, or to write a little computer program which verifies all the cases.
[TO BE CONTINUED]
The original thread for this problem can be found here: [1]
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