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Begin by assuming that <math>x</math> and <math>y</math> are roots of some polynomial of the form <math>w^2+bw+c</math>, such that by [[Vieta's | Begin by assuming that <math>x</math> and <math>y</math> are roots of some polynomial of the form <math>w^2+bw+c</math>, such that by [[Vieta's Formulas]] and some algebra (left as an exercise to the reader), <math>b^2-2c=7</math> and <math>3bc-b^3=10</math>. | ||
Substituting <math>c=\frac{b^2-7}{2}</math>, we deduce that <math>b^3-21b-20=0</math>, whose roots are <math>-4</math>, <math>-1</math>, and <math>5</math>. | Substituting <math>c=\frac{b^2-7}{2}</math>, we deduce that <math>b^3-21b-20=0</math>, whose roots are <math>-4</math>, <math>-1</math>, and <math>5</math>. | ||
Since <math>-b</math> is the sum of the roots and is maximized when <math>b=-4</math>, the answer is <math>-(-4)=\boxed{004}</math>. | Since <math>-b</math> is the sum of the roots and is maximized when <math>b=-4</math>, the answer is <math>-(-4)=\boxed{004}</math>. | ||
Latest revision as of 14:29, 14 August 2025
Problem
Suppose that the sum of the squares of two complex numbers
and
is
and the sum of the cubes is
. What is the largest real value that
can have?
Solutions
Solution 1
One way to solve this problem is by substitution. We have
and
Hence observe that we can write
and
.
This reduces the equations to
and
.
Because we want the largest possible
, let's find an expression for
in terms of
.
.
Substituting,
, which factorizes as
(the Rational Root Theorem may be used here, along with synthetic division).
The largest possible solution is therefore
.
Solution 2
An alternate way to solve this is to let
and
.
Because we are looking for a value of
that is real, we know that
, and thus
.
Expanding
will give two equations, since the real and imaginary parts must match up.
Looking at the imaginary part of that equation,
, so
, and
and
are actually complex conjugates.
Looking at the real part of the equation and plugging in
,
, or
.
Now, evaluating the real part of
, which equals
(ignoring the odd powers of
, since they would not result in something in the form of
):
Since we know that
, it can be plugged in for
in the above equation to yield:
Since the problem is looking for
to be a positive integer, only positive half-integers (and whole-integers) need to be tested. From the Rational Roots theorem,
all fail, but
does work. Thus, the real part of both numbers is
, and their sum is
.
Solution 3
Begin by assuming that
and
are roots of some polynomial of the form
, such that by Vieta's Formulas and some algebra (left as an exercise to the reader),
and
.
Substituting
, we deduce that
, whose roots are
,
, and
.
Since
is the sum of the roots and is maximized when
, the answer is
.
Solution 4
Also,
Substituting our above into this, we get
. Letting
, we have that
. Testing
, we find that this is a root, to get
See Also
| 1983 AIME (Problems • Answer Key • Resources) | ||
| Preceded by Problem 4 |
Followed by Problem 6 | |
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